Dr. Phil Show “Hollywood Obsessed: The Black Dahlia Murder Mystery, “New Evidence Found” Aired Wed March 27 2019 – Dr. Phil Praises Top National Podcast “Root of Evil”

March 30, 2019
Los Angeles, California

Appeared on the Dr. Phil Show this week for a full one-hour presentation covering just some of the “New Evidence” (2018) related to my Black Dahlia investigation as well as to introduce the popular “Root of Evil: The True Story of the Hodel Family and the Black Dahlia Murder.” Both of my great nieces, Rasha and Yvette,  joined me for the “Root of Evil” segments of the show.

Here are some “still photos” clipped from various segments to give those of you who missed it, an “overview.”


                     Steve  Hodel                                           Dr. Phil


“A skilled surgeon did it”   Introducing and explaining the surgical procedure known as a”Hemicorporectomy”


“Murder as a Fine Art”  Explaining a few of the Surrealist Connections to Dr. Phil
Victim’s body posed at the crime scene by Dr. Hodel to mimic Man Ray’s “Minotaure”



Using surgeon scalpel to carve cross-hatch design on right hip of the body to mimic Man Ray’s artwork “L’equivoque”

George Hodel’s handwriting identified by Questioned Document Expert as same written by “Black Dahlia Avenger”

Los Angeles District Attorney 1950 Secret Hodel Black Dahlia Electronic Surveillance Recordings Explained
“Supposin I did kill the Black Dahlia they can’t prove it now my secretary’s dead.”
This is the best payoff I’ve seen between Law Enforcement agencies” etc.


“Put a pillow over her head, and covered her with a blanket. …Expired at 12:39. They thought there was something fishy. Anyway, now they may have figured it out. ..Maybe I did kill my secretary.”

“I’m in trouble.”
(SKH Note to Dr. Phil graphic designer. This statement made on 3/18, not 3/26, but excellent job on all graphics. Very impressive!) 


The WHY of the DA/LAPD Cover-up- Dahliagate
February 18, 1950, tape-recorded murder during stakeout explained.
Dr. George Hodel and Baron Harringa beat a woman with a pipe in basement resulting in probable murder.
Stakeout detectives five minutes away listening to assault in real time and take no action.


Dr. George Hodel’s “LA Lone Woman Murders” 1943-1950  Four victims bodies never found.
In 1950 DA/LAPD detectives suspected bodies may have been buried on Hodel property.  Never searched.


Dr. Phil interviews Retired Police Sgt. Paul Dostie who explains Cadaver Dog “Buster” alerts to human remains at Hodel Sowden House.

Sgt. Dostie explains new November 2018 findings from Dr. Arpad Vass’ “Inquisitor ” instrument detecting “human bones on/near Hodel property.”


Dr. Robert Schug

My great nieces, Rasha, Yvette, and psychologist, Dr. Robert Schug, Professor of criminology at Long Beach State University discuss effects on family members. Dr. Phil highly recommends viewers listen to Root of Evil podcasts to learn more.


















  1. Marius Engel Jensen on April 3, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    Hi Steve,

    Saw some very interesting smal clips from the Dr. Phil show on his youtube channel – ca. 4-5 minutes in duration each. I live in Denmark, Europe.

    Do you know if there is any possibility to see the entire show outside of the US ? (i can’t seem to access the Dr. Phil official homepage)

    Interesting the findings at the Sowden house, late 2018. It is inexplicable to me why the owners of the the house and the neighbouring house will not allow excavations on their property…- this is very important to known who these bones belong to..- and be able to burry the persons properly after all these years.

    Also. I believe you mention that Fauna Hodel did not knew who her biological father was, and her daughters still don’t know (and it may have been George). Are you able to compare DNA of Fauna and George to solve this? or have you chosen to leave this in the unknown?


  2. Luigi Warren on April 4, 2019 at 10:52 am


    Do you know if the murderer’s reported trick of using gasoline to remove fingerprints from the Dahlia’s belongings was a “thing” with criminals at the time? I notice in the 1950 transcripts that one of GHH’s sidelines (along with luxury tea sales and managing light opera troupes) involved developing a novel detergent — he jokingly tells a woman visitor that it “might eat all your skin off.” Seems like he must have been paying attention in Organic Chemistry at Berkeley.


    • Steve Hodel on April 4, 2019 at 11:59 am


      Never heard of it (gasoline) done in any other case. My guess is that rather than that, that the smell of gasoline was incidental to the property being placed in the car trunk next to a 5gal can of gasoline or?
      It’s possible, but for me doesn’t pass the smell test. (pun intended). Yes, as I recall the woman sounded pretty drunk at the house?

  3. Luigi Warren on April 4, 2019 at 12:49 pm


    It was widely reported that the personal effects mailed to the LA Examiner on January 24 had been soaked in gasoline, either indicating an intent to rinse off fingerprints (which was apparently successful), or suggesting that the killer had thought to burn the contents and changed his mind. See LAT 1/25, 1/26 & San Francisco Examiner, 1/26. The SF Examiner story says the gasoline rinse “was regarded as classifying the killer as a person versed in scientific crime detection… Comparatively few persons are aware of this [method].” Some accounts say ES’s body was also washed with gasoline but I’m not sure if that was reported at the time or is later mythology.

    I wonder if GHH’s experimental exfoliating bath rinse ever made it to market. There are a few references in the transcript which indicate that he never lost his early interest in chemistry.


    • Steve Hodel on April 4, 2019 at 1:21 pm

      LW: Again, my guess is tabloid/yellow journalism and FrontPage whisky-fueled reporters-cum-wannabe-mystery writers imaginations. The letters as shown in photos clearly were not “soaked in gasoline”. Suggest you put a wrapped paper bag package in the trunk of your car for a day or two and take it out see if it has the smell of gasoline. Hyperbolic leaps assuming “the killer was well versed in scientific crime detection.” But, sounds good and sells newspapers.

  4. Kenneth Green on April 5, 2019 at 1:11 am

    I finally listened to all of the Root of Evil podcasts. Some episodes I listened to several times. The entire series was riveting. I’m glad I got to speak with Fauna twice. I really wished I had met her but I did send her a portrait of her that I painted. I didn’t know Tamar’s adult life was so turbulent. I didn’t know the effect she had on her children. I’m saddened to know that this investigation has taken a toll on you. For what it’s worth I’m one of your biggest supporters. I’ve gotten into a few arguments with people on social media about your theories. Just the other day I got into it with someone from one of my Facebook groups about you. He was one of the producers of the Hollywood Crimes podcasts. I can accept that GH may not be the killer but when they dismiss you as a crackpot that is when I get upset. I asked this guy where does all the resentment towards Steve Hodel come from? They usually treat me like a novice until I tell them that I have been following this case since 1975. Then they back off or they won’t answer me back. Larry Harnisch is someone that I have lost all respect for. He behaves like a five year old. One of his supporters was trying to convince me of his ‘scholarship’ about the case. I’ll take a homicide detective who has worked 300 homicides over some scholarship any day of the week. Take care of yourself, Steve. I hope you find some peace with this. There is a writer named Morris Berman. He says that when truth meets myth it’s the myth that wins. I’m paraphrasing him but I think that is the case with Elizabeth Short and the Black Dahlia. The lure for these morons to write books and screenplays and to sit around intellectually masterbate themselves on this case is just too strong. They don’t want it solved.

    • Steve Hodel on April 5, 2019 at 2:28 am

      Kenneth G: *s* Thanks for the kind words and support Kenneth. Much appreciated.
      Yes, I try my best not to get into pissing contests with these guys and gals. Some of them have been writing their “solution to the Black Dahlia Murder” for the past twenty-two years and others have a “Don’t mess with my myth” mentality. The third group takes the retired reporter Will Fowler’s position of “Never wanting it solved. It’s like a Christmas Present and should never be unwrapped.” Your Morris Berman quote is very reminiscent of one of my favorite quotes from the classic Western film, “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.” Here’s the great ending clip that includes that reference:


      With five books and new evidence/linkage coming out every few months we are now way beyond “theory” and have gone passed the threshold of “Beyond a Reasonable Doubt” so yes, I am at peace with the evidence.
      By example, look at the huge new evidence linking my father to the crimes just a few months ago. Don’t know if you’ve seen “The Glenn Martin Letter”, but to my mind it is the strogest evidence yet presented, second only to the Secret Hodel/DA Black Dahlia Files. A seventy-year old dying declaration meant only for the police confirming George Hodel killed both Elizabeth Short and Louise Springer. Martin, a paid LAPD police informant writes out a three page letter “To Be Opened Only If Harm Comes to one of his Daughters” Found seventy years later by his granddaughter. Incredible. If you haven’t seen it see link here.


      Again my thanks and support. Best Regards, Steve

  5. R. Kent on April 14, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    Mr. Hodel:

    I have been reading about the Black Dahlia murder for over 30 years. I’m no novice detective, just a reader of true crime stories. I think your case is the strongest I have ever read.

    When I saw you were tying George to the Zodiac Murders, I thought, “No way.” Then I read your theory about that and I could see how you came up with your thesis. Considering the fact that serial killers usually kill until something happens to stop them, it makes sense to me.

    Thank you for sharing your investigation with us. I hope this case is closed soon.

    Thank you for your hard work.

    • Steve Hodel on April 14, 2019 at 11:46 pm

      R. Kent: Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. Hopefully, we will get some confirmed DNA on Zodiac to compare to my father’s DNA. To date, they don’t have any, but maybe soon? Best, Steve

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